Webster Garrison Interview, Part 2, Never Quit

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison, right, meets with Bakersfield manager Ken Griffey Sr. and umpires before a July 2012 game at Bakersfield. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: Every Day | Part 2: Never Quit

Webster Garrison stepped onto the Oakland Coliseum field in August 1996 in awe.

He was in the major leagues for the first time, in his 12th season as a pro.

"It's an awesome feeling, man. Hard to explain," Garrison recalled to the Greatest 21 Days recently, "butterflies going through you, you just want to play well. You just want to impress, because it might be that one game you get chance to play in.

"I was just trying to play my heart out and try and stick in there and do whatever I can to help the team win."

Garrison stuck in there with the Athletics for all of five games, the only five major league games he would see in a 16-season professional career.

Garrison spoke to The Greatest 21 Days recently in Bakersfield, Ca., before his Ports took on the Bakersfield Blaze at historic Sam Lynn Ballpark. Garrison spoke of that trip to the bigs, but also his long wait to get there.

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison, No. 50, coaches third during a late July 2012 game at Bakersfield. (G21D Photo)

Drafted by the Blue Jays in the second round of the 1983 draft, spending his first six seasons in the Toronto system. He made AAA Syracuse by 1989, returning there for an injury plagued 1990.

Healthy again for 1991, Garrison found himself with the Athletics system, playing between AA Huntsville and AAA Tacoma. With the new organization, Garrison also found himself having to work harder to get noticed.

"You have to prove to them that you can outplay their guys," Garrison recalled.

Garrison hit .231 between the two levels in 1991, then .267 the next year, also between the two levels.

By 1993, though, his hitting picked up. He hit .303, topping .300 for the first time. He also ended up being co-MVP for the AAA Tacoma Tigers. He didn't get called up to Oakland.

After moving to the Rockies and AAA Colorado Springs for two seasons, Garrison returned to the Athletics system for 1996, his 12 season as a pro.

Along the way, Garrison recalled the days where he woke up and said he didn't want to do it anymore, that it wasn't working and he was going home.

"You never get around to it because you love the game so much," Garrison said. "You love the competition. Your goal is to go play in the major leagues. I never packed it in. I never quit. I never went home. And when I got that call, it was the greatest feeling ever."

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison before a July 2012 game at Bakersfield. (G21D Photo)

He got that call in early August 1996. He then made his own calls, to his relatives and friends. "They were excited for me as well," Garrison recalled, "and I was super excited."

Garrison remembered entering the Oakland clubhouse and seeing his jersey hanging in his locker. "That's a moment I had to myself," Garrison said. It's a jersey he still has.

Garrison debuted with the Athletics Aug. 2, at home against the Brewers. He went 0 for 3. The next day, he went 0 for 3, as well. But he also made it on base for the first time, and what would be the only time, in his career.

On a 3-2 pitch, Garrison recalled fouling off a couple offerings, then taking a close pitch. It was a ball and Garrison was on base.

Garrison played in three more games, getting just one at bat in each. His last game came Aug. 7, and his major league career was over.

"I enjoyed every minute of it," Garrison said. "It was unbelievable playing in the major leagues."

"I had nine at bats, I came close a couple times, hit a couple balls hard. But that's just baseball," Garrison said. "I wish I would have gotten more of an opportunity. But, you know when you're that guy and you get up there and get you chance, you try to make the best of it."

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison at Sam Lynn Ballpark in Bakersfield, Ca. in July 2012. (G21D Photo)

Garrison played two more seasons, one at AAA Edmonton in 1997 and the next back at AA Huntsville. The end came in spring 1999, Garrison recalled, when no one called.

Then the phone did ring. It was Oakland. They wanted him to coach. He's been with the Athletics since, both as a hitting coach and a manager.

With him as he works with his players is his 16 years as a player himself, playing at every level of baseball.

"It definately helps, just reaching the young guys," Garrison said. "You've been through everything physically and mentally and you kind of can relate to them."

Garrison can also relate that getting to the majors is not an easy task. That it takes work, hard work.

"For some of them, if you're good enough, it'll happen," Garrison said. "But for most of them, you've got to put in the work, you've got to put in the time."

Part 1: Every Day | Part 2: Never Quit

Webster Garrison Interview, Part 1, Every Day

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison in the visitors dugout at Sam Lynn Ballpark in Bakersfield, Ca., in July 2012. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: Every Day | Part 2: Never Quit

BAKERSFIELD, CA - Webster Garrison heard the voice and thought maybe somebody was playing a trick on him.

But it was no trick. That was Billy Beane and Garrison was going to the major leagues.

After playing his first professional game at the age of 18, Garrison was now 30. And he was going to the major leagues for the first time.

"It freaked me out, man. It was unbelievable," Garrison told The Greatest 21 Days recently. "I had to pinch myself a couple times. A great, great, great feeling. Unbelievable. Playing that many years, putting in all that time.

"In your mind, you say, 'aw, man, I'm tired of this, I'm going home,'" Garrison added, referring to the times thought he would never make it, "then you catch yourself going back to the ballpark every day, because you love the game of baseball."

Stockton Ports shortstop Michael Gilmartin steps in as his manager Webster Garrison coaches at third. (G21D Photo)

Garrison is still going to the ballpark every day, now in his second season in 2012 as manager of the California League's Stockton Ports. His time with the Ports is part of a coaching career that has now spanned more than a decade. Garrison became a coach after a playing career that spanned a decade and a half.

In that decade and a half playing career, Garrison made it to the bigs just that once, for five games, 10 plate appearances and one walk.

Garrison spoke to The Greatest 21 Days recently in Bakersfield, Ca., before his Ports took on the Bakersfield Blaze at historic Sam Lynn Ballpark. Garrison spoke of that trip to the bigs, but also his long wait to get there.

Garrison's professional career began in 1983, taken by the Blue Jays in the second round of the draft, out of Ehrat High School in Marrero, La.

Garrison had played since he was a kid, the place to go being the Marrero Action Community playground, he recalled. There, he played every sport that was available.

"I had a lot of fun, we had a lot of good teams, really," Garrison recalled. "Not a lot of funding for the program, but we had a lot of good athletes coming out of the city of Marrero."

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison, second from left, with his coaches at Sam Lynn Ballpark in Bakersfield, Ca., in July 2012. (G21D Photo)

Getting into middle school and high school, Garrison played both baseball and football.

In baseball, Garrison was not only good enough to get drafted, he was good enough to be the second round pick. Garrison recalled not even thinking he'd be drafted, much less be taken in the second round.

That meant Garrison had a choice to make. He had planned to go to the University of New Orleans. And garrison didn't make it until three days before school was set to start.

"I really had my sights set on going to UNO and playing for the University of New Orleans," Garrison said, "but Toronto kept pursuing me and the signing bonus kept getting more and more and more to where I couldn't say no."

Garrison recalled his mom and friends pushing him to go to college. He wanted to go to college, too. 

"They made me an offer where I couldn't refuse," he said. "Not only was I delighted, I was excited as well. Because as a kid, you always want to go pro."

Turning pro, Garrison was on his own for the first time, he called it a new world. He'd never played so many games in his life. He also wasn't prepared for the physical toll the season took.

Starting at single-A Florence in the South Atlantic League, Garrison recalled doing well his first couple months. Once June, July and August came, though, his average began to drop.

"Physically, I was tired. Mentally, I was tired. I was getting a little home sick my first year in pro baseball," Garrison recalled. "But I survived. I was with a good group of guys, with a good organization and they helped me through it."

From there, he went to instructional league, with little time off. But it was also there, Garrison said, that he learned more than he did his first season. "That's where we did a lot of work and learned a lot of baseball."

Stockton Ports manager Webster Garrison with two of his players in the visitors dugout at Sam Lynn Ballpark in Bakersfield, Ca. (G21D Photo)

Garrison moved to single-A Kinston in 1985 and got his first brief look at AA Knoxville in 1986. His first extended time at AA came in 1988. He then made AAA in 1989.

When he made AAA, Garrison said he started looking ahead to the majors, thinking he would make it. And, though he was in his sixth professional season, Garrison was also still just 23.

By the end of the year, Garrison was looking for that trip to Toronto. He'd played half the year at Knoxville and the other half at Syracuse. Between them, he hit .277. But he also hit just four home runs.

"I thought I played well enough, but at the time, I wasn't the physical strong guy, like some of the other guys on the team," Garrison said. "I was the little, get-on-base guy."

He just wasn't the guy the Blue Jays were looking for then, Garrison recalled.

"There were some guys ahead of me, and it was tough because at that time,"Garrison said. "you're goal is you want to go top the big leagues and I'm ready to go right now. But physically, I wasn't ready."

Garrison was also disappointed the next spring, when he didn't go to major league camp. At the same time, though, Garrison recalled having the mindset of going back to minor league camp and showing what he could do.

That season, though, Garrison could do little. He ended up missing almost the entire year to injury.

Running to first, trying to play his game, running, Garrison felt a pop and went down. He came back from that injury and injured his hamstring again within a week, covering first on a bunt.

"Every time I tried to come back, I kept reinjuring my hamstring," Garrison recalled. "It was just a tough year the whole way around, mentally and physically."

He ended up playing in just 37 games that year for AAA Syracuse. He also definitely wasn't any closer to the major leagues.

For that, he'd have to wait another six years.

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Note: This was the seventh of 10 interviews picked up on The Greatest 21 Days' late July 2012 trip to central and southern California. Links to other interviews are on the righthand column.

Cliff Young, The Opportunity - 478

Fighting for a spot in the Angels bullpen in 1991, Cliff Young told The Los Angeles Times he knew there was a spot or two open and he came in mentally ready to take one.

"I see myself fitting in. I have a lot of self-confidence," Young told The Times. "The only thing I can do is be the best I can be and make a good impression."

Young did make the Angels that year, getting into 11 games in relief. Two years later, Young's best found him a home with another team, the Indians, getting 21 outings, seven starts.

That November, though, after his year with the Indians, it was Young's best that was remembered at his memorial service, a car accident in his home state of Texas having claimed his life at the age of 29.

Young's career began back in 1983, taken by the Expos in the fifth round of the draft out of Willis High School in Willis, Texas.

Young started at rookie Calgary, going 7-1 in 13 starts. He spent the next two seasons at single-A, going 15-5 the second year, at West Palm Beach.

Young spent the next three seasons in the Toronto system after a trade, making AA Knoxville his first year and AAA Syracuse his third.For 1989, Young arrived with the Angels, the team that would bring him to the majors, traded there for DeWayne Buice.

Young debuted with the Angels in July 1990. He ended up getting into 17 games for California that year, with a 3.52 ERA. He picked up his first loss, giving up a Rickey Henderson home run.

In August, Young showed progress, setting down the first batter he faced, after coming in with runners on.

"I learned you've got to bear down a little harder and make your pitches because you always want to get that first guy out with runners on base," Young told The Times after that outing. "I was getting behind and giving hitters their pitch. I was able to bear down tonight."

Young returned for 1991 for 11 more games, giving up six earned runs in 12.2 innings.  Young spent the next year back at AAA.

For 1993, Young signed with the Indians. He went 3-3 for the Indians in 21 outings, with an ERA of 4.62. He started a June game by going six innings, without giving up a run. He then gave up two in the seventh.

Then, the season over, Young went home to Texas. On Nov. 4, his truck slammed into a tree near his hometown, killing him. He left behind a wife and two young children, age 3 and 6, The Associated Press wrote.

At his memorial service, Young's high school baseball coach remembered a kid who came from modest means and made it to the majors, The AP wrote.

"I remember him coming out to practice and not having enough money to eat," his former coach Danny Freeman told mourners, according to The AP. "Here was a poor kid who had the opportunity and took it. He was a great competitor."

• Los Angeles Times, Aug. 22, 1990: Grahe Gets Rude Lesson in Angels' Loss to Tigers
• Los Angeles Times, March 16, 1991: Young Makes Case for Bullpen Job
• Lewiston Sun-Journal, Associated Press, Nov. 8, 1993: Tribes' Young remembered as dedicated, caring

1990 CMC Tally
Cards Featured: 845/880 - 96.0%
Players/Coaches Featured: 856
Made the Majors: 585 - 68%-X
Never Made the Majors:271-32%
5+ Seasons in the Majors: 263
10+ Seasons in the Minors: 160  

Dan Henley Interview, Part 2, No Regrets

Members of the Bakersfield Blaze wait for their turn at bat at Sam Lynn Ballpark in July 2012. Dan Henley played at Sam Lynn in 1987 and 1988. He's now an English teacher and baseball coach at Glendora High School in Glendora, Ca. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: That Dream | Part 2: No Regrets

Draft day came and Dan Henley waited to see where he went.

He'd turned down an offer from the Mets the previous year, as a junior from USC. Now, in 1986, Henley was coming off his senior season and ready to go pro.

When Henley learned where he was going, he learned it was to the Dodgers, his hometown team, as their seventh round pick. It was also the team his father Gail Henley worked for as a scout.

"When I was drafted, I looked at my dad and said 'you're kidding me,'" Henley recalled to The Greatest 21 Days recently. "He's like, 'well, that's where you were slotted. You were the best pick available for us at the time.'"

With that mater-of-fact response, Henley was a member of the Dodgers organization, something Henley had dreamed of.

It was an organization he would spend five seasons in, getting to AAA Albuquerque, but never getting to Los Angeles. Henley spent one more season with the White Sox, also at AAA, marking the extent of his professional career.

Henley's professional teaching and coaching career in high school, though, has lasted much longer, now more than two decades.

Henley spoke to The Greatest 21 Days in late July at a La Verne, Ca., Chili's, a few miles from the high school where he now works, Glendora High School in Glendora, Ca.

A member of the Florida State League Palm Beach Cardinals takes a swing in May 2011 at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla. Dan Henley played in the Florida State League in 1986 as a member of the Vero Beach Dodgers. (G21D Photo)

Henley's professional career began that year in 1986 after four years playing at USC and growing up in Southern California the son of a scout and sometimes minor league manager.

After being selected by the Dodgers, Henley had little negotiating to do. The offer was fair for a college senior, Henley recalled.

Sent to single-A Vero Beach, though, injuries followed him. He'd undergone multiple surgeries early in his college career, but remained healthy later.

At Vero Beach, injury hit him in his very first professional at bat, though the seriousness wasn't immediately known.

Running to first on a ground ball, Henley worked to avoid the double play. He beat the throw, but was thrown off balance and landed on his wrist. The first X-ray showed a break. The second one didn't.

After sitting out a few days, Henley recalled his manager, Stan Wasiak, the man also known as the "King of the Minors" for his longevity as a minor league player and manager, approached the young infielder.

"He goes, 'hey, son, you've got to know the difference between pain and soreness,'" Henley recalled. "'You've got to get back out there and play. It's not broken.'"

Palm Beach Cardinals wait for a pitch against the Tampa Yankees in the Florida State League in May 2011. Dan Henley played for the league's Vero Beach Dodgers in 1986, breaking his wrist on a fall running to first. (G21D Photo)

Henley responded that it did hurt. But he was also soon back on the field. "I learned to manage the pain and deal with it," Henley recalled.

He finished out the season hitting .210 in 43 games. As it turned out, his wrist was broken, as an examination after the season by the same doctor who did one of Henley's college surgeries showed. Henley recalled running into his Vero Beach trainer later and, seeing Henley's wrist in the cast, getting an apology.

But Henley was playing every day, as a pro. It was something he wanted. He was also getting the realty that all pro players get when coming out of college: They aren't as good as they think they are.

"You think you got the game nipped. You think you got it figured out because you go to a big-time university," Henley recalled. "But there's no substitute for playing every day. The repetition, how to field a ground ball propertly, becoming a good hitter because you've got a wood bat in your hand. There's definitely a learning curve."

There's also the realization of who people are watching. Henley recalled playing in the California League seeing scouts watch certain guys. Henley wasn't necessarily one of them.

It reminded him of his junior year at USC. Henley was taken in the sixth round. Another USC pitcher a junior by the name of Randy Johnson, was taken in the second.

Stockton first baseman A.J. Kirby-Jones waits for a pitch at Bakersfield's Sam Lynn Ballpark in July 2012. Dan Henley played that infield at Sam Lynn in 1987 and 1988, primarily second base. (G21D Photo)

Johnson, who of course went on to achieve heights few have ever achieved, ended up getting what he wanted in 1985 after what Henley recalled as a mediocre junior season. Henley stayed for another year.

"I said to my dad, what's the deal?" Henley recalled of the 1980s conversation. "My dad looked at me and goes, 'son, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Randy Johnson is 6 foot, 11. You're 5 foot, 10. You do the math.' So as the son of a scout, that has always sat with me. Because it was my dad telling me the truth, something that I didn't want to hear."

At the same time, Henley also learned from his father not to fight that math, but be the best with his own math that he could.

"It was something that I learned from my father at a young age," Henley said. "'Embrace what you are, because that's not going to change.' I was never upset that I wasn't given different gifts.

"But he also said, 'and be good at everything that you do. Be a good hitter. Be a good fielder. Have a good arm. Understand the game. Know your role.' Those things, I think, kind of enabled me to progress and give myself a chance."

And Henley did progress. He stayed at single-A Bakersfield for two seasons, 1987 and 1988, hitting .229 and .243. He hit AA San Antonio in 1989, getting 72 games there. He also got his first look at AAA Albuquerque that year, 18 games.

He then returned to Albuquerque for all of 1990, hitting .305 in 87 games. But he never got his call up to Los Angeles.

Fresno's Chukchansi Park in 2012, home of the Giants' AAA Pacific Coast League team. Dan Henley played in the Pacific Coast League with AAA Albuquerque in 1989 and 1990, when the Giants' affiliate was in Phoenix. (G21D Photo)

When he made AA, Henley recalled thinking that it might happen, that he might make it to the majors. Getting out of single-A, he recalled, is an accomplishment in itself.

When he moved to the White Sox system for 1991, Henley continued to think it might happen.

"My first half at Vancouver was very good," Henley recalled. "I felt like I stood a good chance there. But then injuries, they hit me again."

His elbow hurt, his shoulder hurt. By the end of the season, he was on the disabled list. In just 70 games, hit hit just .195.

"Basically, at that point, I knew it was time," Henley said. "I'd been through the injuries. I knew what major injuries were. I knew what performance level expectations were. I knew it was time to move on.

"With that being said, no regrets."

It was also time to get serious about life. He was married to his now wife of 25 years Pam. They had a son Kevin. A second, Ryan, would come later.

Henley wanted to stay in the game. One route would be to coach or manage in the minors, or scout, like his father. That life ended up working out for his parents, he recalled, but he also knew it was a tough life.

Henley's wife was a teacher. And that's what Henley became, a high school teacher. Being a teacher also would give him an opportunity to stay with the game, as a high school coach.

So he got his credentials and set out being an English teacher. He even recently finished his masters.

Glendora High School English teacher and head baseball coach Dan Henley in July 2012. Henley played six years as a pro, but never made it to the majors. (G21D Photo)

Henley spent his first eight years in El Monte, Ca., at Mountain View High School. Five of those were also spent as head baseball coach.

His time since has been spent in Glendora, Ca., at Glendora High School, English teacher and baseball coach.

In the classroom, Henley says he regularly brings his background in baseball. At the start of each year, he said, he apologizes. He's going to make a lot of comparisons and analogies to sports. He also doesn't overwhelm, and always seems to stay on task.

"I can apologize for that," Henley said of bringing his baseball past into the classroom, "but I can't deny it as a strength because I have so many stories and things that are a part of me from baseball and sports that it would be a tragedy not to bring that to the classroom."

As a high school coach, Henley works with players at a wide range of skill levels. He's even had some really good ones, like a former player of his, John Alexander. Alexander was taken by the Rays in the eighth round of the 2011 draft, right out of Glendora.

Playing at rookie Princeton this, his second year, the 19-year-old Alexander has struggled. In late July, when Henley spoke, he recalled talking with Alexander on the phone the day before.

Henley's advice was simple. It was also advice from someone who had been there.

"I said, 'Grind it out, dude. You've got one month left. You're hitting .207. You're not the first person to do that. You can either really struggle the rest of the way, because you have a bad attitude. Or you can grind it out and be a .230-.240 guy and all of a sudden, people are looking at you and going 'alright, we like this guy.''"

As of late August, Alexander's average was back up to .230.

"They don't care about the numbers in the minor leagues, for the most part, except that you progress," Henley said.

Henley tries to use the same approach with his high school players, getting them to progress, achieve that next goal, improve the team. "But don't miss that opportunity," Henley said, "because those are regrets and you don't want regrets."

Part 1: That Dream | Part 2: No Regrets 

Dan Henley Interview, Part 1, That Dream

Glendora High School baseball coach and English teacher Dan Henley in July 2012. Henley played six seasons as a pro, but never made the majors. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: That Dream | Part 2: No Regrets 

LA VERNE, CA - The Bakersfield Dodgers were heading into a double header that day in 1988 without a healthy catcher, Dan Henley recalled.

The manager's solution? Ask for a volunteer.

Stepping forward was Henley, regularly an infielder. Henley had caught previously, nevermind that the last time he did so was back around Little League.

The result: "It was the longest double header of my life," Henley said. "My heart goes out to catchers."

"But," Henley added a short time later, "you'll do anything to play because of that dream."

Henley's dream, like any other player in his shoes, was to make the major leagues. To achieve that, he had to stay on the field, playing, whether that be in his regular slot in the infield, or in an unusual spot, like catcher.

For Henley, though, his dream was one that was never realized.

But it was a dream that led into another path, that of a high school English teacher and baseball coach. For the past two decades, Henley has taught teenagers the value of reading and writing, and done it with a nod to the game he played professionally for six seasons.

Henley spoke to The Greatest 21 Days in late July at a La Verne, Ca., Chili's, a few miles from the high school where he now works, Glendora High School in Glendora, Ca.

Members of the Bakersfield Blaze at Sam Lynn Ballpark in July 2012. Dan Henley played for Bakersfield at Sam Lynn in 1987 and 1988. (G21D Photo)

Over lunch, Henley covered his career in the game, growing up with a minor league manager and a scout as a father. He also spoke of going off to college at USC, then signing as a pro with his hometown team, the Dodgers.

He then spoke of how injuries threatened to derail his career early on, then finally did in the end. And how he's worked with high school players, trying to pass on the lessons his father taught him, and the lessons he learned as a pro, to his young players.

Henley grew up in Southern California, son of longtime Dodger scout and minor league manager Gail Henley. The father had been a player himself, getting one brief major league shot, 14 games, with the Pirates in 1954.

Some of Dan Henley's earliest memories are of going to games his father managed or scouted. One time he even remembered seeing the legendary Casey Stengel at Stengel Field in Glendale. Dan Henley was old enough to know who Stengel was.

When his father was a manager, Henley got to spend time with him and the team. When he was about 14, his father managed in the Pioneer League, in Lethbridge, Alberta. The son got to spend time with the team, getting to experience life in the minors.

Part of that life was the bus travel, including the 14-hour bus rides. One such ride was from Great Falls, Mont., to Idaho Falls, Idaho. On that trip, Henley was given a special job to do: Keep the bus driver awake.

When it came time for Henley to get on the field himself, he recalled learning by watching, and then doing.

Bakersfield's Sam Lynn Ballpark in July 2012. Dan Henley played at Sam Lynn in 1987 and 1988, catching one double header for the team. (G21D Photo)

"I was able to spend a lot of time watching my dad do his thing," Henley recalled. "As far as direct instruction, mostly it was watching and then replicating."

The replicating helped when his father was away on his scouting trips to the East or Midwest.

His desire to play professionally, and make it to the biggest stage, was always there. He met his wife Pam in the 10th grade. He recalled relaying that dream to her early on, responding to her question about what he wanted to do for a living.

"I said 'I want to be a professional baseball player. I want to play in the big leagues," Henley recalled. "And she laughed."

She wanted to be a school teacher. They've been married for nearly 25 years now, with two boys. Henley eventually joined her in the teaching ranks.

But Henley did play baseball professionally. He did so after going through USC.

Heavily recruited out of high school, Henley accepted a scholarship to be a Trojan. It was also the same school his father went to and played ball at.

There, Henley got to play for the legendary USC baseball coach Rod Dedeaux. Henley ended up being Dedeaux' last team captain in 45 years as USC coach, something Henley said he was blessed to be able to say.

Henley also got to play with some other rising stars. Mark McGwire was a hear ahead of him. Randy Johnson was there, too.

Fiscalini Field in San Bernardino, former home to the San Bernardino Spirit. Dan Henley played at Fiscalini in 1987 and 1988 as a member of the visiting Bakersfield Dodgers. (G21D Photo)

"That's when it became more of a reality," Henley said of realizing he might have some talent himself, "because you're surrounded by some pretty good players."

Early on at USC, Henley struggled with injury. He'd already had one knee surgery from a high school basketball injury. Then, in his sophomore year, came another injury on an attempted double play.

"It was at Arizona State, I was playing second base," Henley recalled, "and had no fear. I tried to turn it and it was ugly."

Of the injuries, Henley said they just hardened his resolve to get back onto the field.

"It builds character, makes you stronger, you get through it," Henley said. "I didn't think about the ramification. It was just another obstacle.

By his junior year, Henley was back and good enough to get drafted. The Mets took him in the sixth round. Henley then had a tough decision to make. He really wanted to go pro. But he also wanted it to be on the right terms.

Before talking contract, Henley turned to his father the scout for advice. His father did know the Mets scout, after all. Gail Henley, though, said his was on his own.

Henley looked for a certain number from the scout, $40,000. When he didn't get it, the negotiations went on but Henley went to play summer ball in Alaska.

"That was really hard," Henley said of the talks, "because I really wanted to go out and play professional baseball. It's a real lure."

In Alaska, Henley played baseball almost every day. He also experienced the nearly 24-hour light of the Alaska summer, sleeping with the blinders on at first. One time he remembered even going out on an off-day hike with some teammates, starting at 9 p.m.

Talks with the Mets finally broke down and Henley returned to USC for his senior year.

After that final season with the Trojans, another team came calling. This time it was Henley's hometown Dodgers, the same team his father scouted for.

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Note: This is the sixth of 10 interviews picked up on The Greatest 21 Days' late July trip to central and southern California. Links to other interviews are on the righthand column.

Mike Huff, Been Confident - 426

Mike Huff believed his stats at AAA were enough to be called up that September in 1990. He'd gotten a brief look at the Dodgers the previous year. But, this year, no call came.

"When no callup came for me, I began to feel self-doubt," Huff told The Chicago Tribune the next May. "I`d always been confident, but this is the nature of the beast."

Huff, though, found new life that next spring, taken by the Indians in the Rule 5 draft, getting into 102 games that year. He went on to have time in a total of seven big league seasons.

Huff's career began back in 1985, taken by the Dodgers in the 16th round of the draft, out of Northwestern.

He started with the Dodgers at rookie Great Falls, hitting .316 in 70 games. He made AA San Antonio in 1987, then AAA Albuquerque in 1989.

In 1989, Huff also got his first look at the majors, debuting that August. He got into 12 games, getting five hits in 25 at bats.

Then he spent that entire next season back at Albuquerque. Taken by the Indians, Huff spent the first half of the year in Cleveland, hitting .240 in 51 games. In mid-July, Huff was taken off waivers by his hometown White Sox. The White Sox were also in the hunt.

"I can't think of anything better than a pennant race," Huff told reporters after Huff helped the White Sox beat the Tigers in August with a two-run double. "I've been able to come over here and relax."

Huff got into another 51 games for the White Sox down the stretch, hitting .268. He returned to the White Sox for 1992 and 1993, but his total playing time dropped. He got into 60 games in 1992 and 43 in 1993.

He arrived with the Blue Jays for 1994, in a late-spring trade. He got into 80 games that year and 61 the next.

In June 1994, Huff helped the Blue Jays beat his former team in Chicago with a double and a home run. He also impressed his new manager with his offense, rather than his defense, The Associated Press wrote.

"We hadn't seen him play that much," Blue Jays manager Cito Gaston told The AP of Huff. "It's a surprise and a pleasant one. He's done a good job."

Huff hit .304 for the Blue Jays in 1994, then .232 in 1995. He then got 11 final games with the Blue Jays in 1996, ending his career after time in seven big league seasons.

• Chicago Tribune, May 13, 1991: To Ex-New Trier, NU Star, Cleveland Simply Paradise
• Pittsburgh Press, wire service, Aug. 14, 1991: White Sox 9, Tigers 8
• Warsaw Times-Union, Associated Press, June 8, 1994: Former Sox Huff Helps End Alvarez Streak

1990 CMC Tally
Cards Featured: 844/880 - 95.9%
Players/Coaches Featured: 855
Made the Majors: 584 - 68%-X
Never Made the Majors:271-32%
5+ Seasons in the Majors: 263-X
10+ Seasons in the Minors: 160

Dickie Noles, Wasn't Awed - 231

Just a few outings into his big league career, Dickie Noles admitted to UPI in July 1979 that he was still a little awed by both the big league crowds and the big league players.

"But," Noles told UPI after notching his first major league win, "I'm not awed once I get to the mound. I've always felt at home there."

Noles certainly wasn't awed the next year when he intentionally threw a knock-down pitch to future Hall of Famer George Brett - in the World Series.

Soon, though, Noles would be humbled off the field, admitting publicly that he was an alcoholic.

Noles' career began in 1975, taken by the Phillies in the fourth round of the draft, out of Harding High School in North Carolina.

He started that year at short-season Auburn, hitting AA Reading in 1978 and then major league Philadelphia in 1979.

With the Phillies his rookie year, Noles went 3-4 in 14 starts, posting an ERA of 3.80. Returning to the team for 1980, he moved to the role of a reliever, getting into 48 contests, with a 3.89 ERA.

Noles followed the Phillies to the postseason that year, getting two appearances in the NLCS and one in the World Series. In the World Series, Noles came into Game 4 in the first inning, the starter unable to record more than one out. He went 4.2 innings, only giving up a run.

What he's remembered for came in the fourth inning, the knockdown pitch to Brett that led to angry words from Brett's manager.

Years later, Noles admitted it was intentional, telling The New York Times he'd been upset over a Royal celebration and the a seeming delay at Brett getting into the between pitches.

''I made my decision at that point,'' Noles told The Times in 2000. ''This is the guy I'm going to undress."

The moment was also seen by many as a turning point in the series.

Noles came back for just 13 games in 1981, then moved to the Cubs for 1982. With Chicago, Noles went 10-13, with a 4.42 ERA back as a starter.

Starting 1983, though, Noles got into trouble in Cincinnati, getting into a bar fight. He then reentered an alcohol rehab program.

"I've been through it before and I thought I was OK," Noles told The Chicago Sun-Times that April. "But I'll keep doing it until I am."

Noles went 5-10 for the Cubs that year, with a 4.72 ERA. Noles ended up pitching each of the next five seasons in the majors. The fifth, 1988. He missed all of 1989, playing with the Yankees at AAA.

Noles then came back for one final major league appearance in 1990 with the Phillies, ending his big league career.

Noles has gone on to work for the Phillies, in their employee assistance program. He also hasn't had another drink, not since that April in 1983, he told a Allentown, Pa.-area church in Feburary 2012.

He credited his faith, according to The Hellertown-Lower Saucon Patch. He also speaks at schools about his experiences with addiction and has started a substance abuse prevention program aimed at children.

• Bend Bulletin, UPI, July 10, 1979: Noles shows he belongs; Schmidt catches Kingman
• Dubuque Telegraph-Herald, Chicago Sun-Times, April 13, 1983: Drinking three cases a day is over, Noles resumes alcohol treatment
• New York Times, Oct. 19, 2000: Piazza Ready To Move Past Head Games
• Hellertown-Lower Saucon Patch, Feb. 18, 2012: Dickie Noles Tells of Faith, Talks Baseball at Hellertown Breakfast

1990 CMC Tally
Cards Featured: 843/880 - 95.8%
Players/Coaches Featured: 854
Made the Majors: 583 - 68%-X
Never Made the Majors:271-32%
5+ Seasons in the Majors: 262-X
10+ Seasons in the Minors: 160

Pat Rice Interview, Part 2, Successfully Reinvented

Fresno pitching coach Pat Rice, left, in the Fresno dugout July 27, 2012 at Chukchansi Park. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: Original Path | Part 2: Successfully Reinvented

Pat Rice knew he wasn't going on full rest. His coaches did, too.

Rice, though, was ready to go that night as long as needed.

"They told me before the game, 'you give us five innings, that's all we need,'" Rice recalled to The Greatest 21 Days recently. "I said, 'I'm staying out here as long as I can, you don't have to take me out.'"

Rice didn't mind because this was his major league debut. He also lasted into the sixth inning, without giving up a run.

Rice debuted for the Mariners that May in 1991, the team visiting Yankee Stadium. He went on to pitch 13 total scoreless innings to start his big league career, innings pitched over four separate outings.

Those four outings also represented more than half of Rice's major league career.

Rice spoke with The Greatest 21 Days in late July 2012, at Fresno's Chukchansi Park, where Rice is in his fourth season as the pitching coach for AAA Fresno. Rice turned to coaching after a playing career that spanned seven seasons and included that one brief look at the majors.

Fresno's Boof Bonser at Chukchansi Park in July 2012. Bonser's pitching coach at Fresno is Pat Rice. (G21D Photo)

Rice made the majors in 1991 after five seasons in the minors and not getting drafted out of college. He also made it after a season that saw him start at AAA Calgary and end back at AA Williamsport.

After being sent back down to Williamsport mid-1990, Rice realized he needed to improve if he was going to make it. And that's what he set out to do, he recalled.

"I got sent back down to AA and I needed to reinvent myself a little bit," Rice said. "There were some things I needed to work on, get better at."

The season over, he set about improving. Arriving at camp the next spring, though, Rice brushed back an offer to coach and set about proving he could still pitch.

Taking the mound that spring, Rice pitched well. With a trade, a spot opened up and Rice was back at AAA, as a pitcher.

By May, Rice had pitched well enough to get his call. He had also done so without ever making a major league camp. None of the Seattle coaches really knew him, except for Mariners bullpen coach Dan Warthen.

Warthen, the Mets pitching coach for 2012, had coached Rice the previous year during Rice's 15 outings at AAA Calgary. Rice believed it was Warthen who suggested Rice for the call-up.

Rice got word between starts, as he sat in the Calgary stands clocking that day's pitcher.

The view from the home team dugout at Fresno's Chukchansi Park in July 2012. Pat Rice serves as Fresno's pitching coach. (G21D Photo)

It was the team owner, Rice recalled, rushed up to him. Rice needed to get on a plane. "You don't have time, just get your stuff, we're going to the airport," Rice recalled the owner saying.

It took Rice a couple questions to comprehend what was happening. What was he talking about? What was in New York?

"You're getting called up to the big leagues, you're going to New York," the owner finally said.

Rice recalled responding with calm. He grabbed a couple things and, with the clothes on this back, took off for New York. Flying through Dallas, Rice finally arrived at his destination. "It was a long day," he recalled.

He arrived early the next morning in New York. All the while traveling, he tried to contact his parents with the news.

"This is pre-cell phone time, Rice said. "I didn't have time to call my folks, or call anybody. I was just rushing to the airport and getting on the plane."

He finally got through after arriving in New York. Rice's message was simple: "In case you catch a game on TV, I might be pitching."


About the experience, the rush to New York, the debut at Yankee Stadium, and simply his debut at all, Rice called the whole thing "kind of surreal."

"Two months before, I was about as far away as you could get from being there," Rice recalled. "And, all of a sudden, you're there and, not only are you there, but you're having a lot of success."

Fresno reliever Boof Bonser on the mound at Chukchansi Park. Bonser's pitching coach at Fresno is Pat Rice. (G21D Photo)

Soon though, after pitching in seven games, starting two, and giving up seven earned in 21 innings, Rice was sent back to Calgary.

He then set about trying to get back. Through the whole of 1991 at Calgary, Rice went 13-4, with a 5.03 ERA. "I knew that I needed to keep pitching well, if I wanted to get called back up," Rice said.

But Rice didn't get called back up. The next chances went to the younger guys.

"I understood the reason. It didn't mean I liked it, but I understood it," Rice said. "I thought, well, next year, I'll go and do the same thing. The next year, I struggled. I just didn't pitch very well."
Rice ended up going just 3-8 for Calgary in 1992, his ERA ballooning to 8.21. Throughout the year, too, his arm hurt. To put it simply, he struggled. It was also his last season as a player.

Rice, though, pointed to that season as the one that helped his coaching abilities more than any other.


"The big thing is the fact that I did play and had some really good years and had a really really bad years," Rice said of the impact of his playing days on his time as a coach. "I know kind of both sides of it and know when things go wrong for a guy.

"Believe me, I wasn't the superstar who had 20 Hall of Fame years," Rice said. "I was the guy that had an awful year. That awful year probably taught me more and helped me in coaching as much as anything did prior to that."

Rice is now in his 18th year as a coach or a coordinator. He spent his first 13 with the team that originally signed him, the Mariners. He coached at Appleton and New Haven and spent eight years as minor league pitching coordinator.


He joined the Giants for 2008, coaching that year at high-A San Jose and moving the next to Fresno, where he remains for 2012.

Part 1: Original Path | Part 2: Successfully Reinvented

Pat Rice Interview, Part 1, Original Path

Fresno Grizzlies pitching coach Pat Rice in the Fresno dugout in July 2012. Rice made the majors in 1991 starting with 13 scoreless innings. (G21D Photo)

Part 1: Original Path | Part 2: Successfully Reinvented

FRESNO, CA - Going into the 1991 season, Pat Rice learned the Mariners definitely had a spot for him, just not the spot he was interested in.

Rice hoped that year would be his sixth as a pro, one where he might even get his first shot at the majors. And he felt like he was on his way to doing that, working that previous off season to correct some of his problems from the previous year.

"I showed up at spring training and the coach I had the year before came up to me and said, 'I don't know if we're going to have a job for you or not, but we want to make you a coach,'" Rice recalled to The Greatest 21 Days recently.

"I go, at least if this path's not working, I have another path I can go on," Rice recalled.

For Rice, his original path did work.

Less than two months into the season, as he sat in the stands working the radar gun between starts for AAA Calgary, Rice got the news he'd been waiting for: He was going to the major leagues.

For Rice, it would be his only call to the majors, getting into just seven games, starting two. But he also showed he could play in the majors. He started that run with 13 consecutive scoreless innings. He didn't give up his first run until his fifth outing.

Fresno starter Clayton Tanner on the mound at Chukchansi Park in Fresno, July 27, 2012. Tanner's pitching coach at Fresno is Pat Rice. (G21D Photo)

Rice spoke with The Greatest 21 Days in late July 2012, at Fresno's Chukchansi Park, where Rice is continuing on that other path, the one as a coach.

Rice is serving as the Giants' AAA pitching coach for 2012, his fourth season with the club. In all, he's served as a coach or coordinator now for 18 total seasons.

Rice spoke with The Greatest 21 Days about his origins in the game, how he went undrafted out of college, only to sign on with an independent team and then with the Mariners. Then his move through the minors and that choice on whether he would end his career before ever making the majors.

He also spoke about his efforts to contact his parents, to relay the news of his call up, finally getting them on the phone at 4 a.m., after he'd already arrived with the big club in New York, and his assurances to his coaches for that first big league outing that he could pitch as long as they needed him.

Then there was the year after that, a year of failure, failing on the mound and failing to make the majors again. It was that year, most of all, that Rice points to as helping him, as he went into coaching, more than any other.

Rice was born in South Dakota, but, with a father in the military, he spent his youth around the country, including Hawaii and Colorado.

Fresno's Chukchansi Park July 27, 2012. The pitching coach at Fresno is Pat Rice. (G21D Photo)

His father played baseball, but not professionally, so Rice recalled just gravitating toward it as a youth.

By the time the family arrived in Colorado, Rice had grown a bit and pitched well enough to make it to junior college. He then pitched well enough to make it to the University of Arkansas on a partial scholarship.

At Arkansas, Rice helped the team to the 1985 College World Series, the team making it one win away from the final.

"We had tremendous players there, good coaches," Rice said. "I just kind of walked into a really good situation."

In his senior year, 1986, though, Rice got injured, contributing to his draft position: He didn't have one. With no team wanting to take a chance on him, Rice prepared for life after college.

After getting a job lined up selling pharmaceuticals, though, Rice did get a call. The call came from the independent Pioneer League team in Salt Lake City. It was an invitation to a tryout at Pepperdine.

"I had a couple weeks before I had to actually go to work so I said 'ehh, I'll go do that,'" Rice recalled. "I tried out and made it."

The pharmaceutical company would have to make due without him.

Rice ended up getting into 18 games for the club, starting six of them, and posting a 3.34 ERA. He also helped the team of undrafted, unsigned ballplayers to the Pioneer League championship.

Fresno starter Clayton Tanner delivers to the plate July 27, 2012, at Fresno's Chukchansi Park. Tanner's pitching coach at Fresno is Pat Rice. (G21D Photo)

The night the team won the championship, Rice also won. His personal win came with an offer from a scout to go play baseball in the Seattle Mariners organization.

The offer came after the game ended, and as the championship celebrations continued, Rice recalled.

"It was a good day," Rice said. "It was a really good day. People talk about their first day in the big leagues and all that. But that was really exciting for me because I didn't really know what I was going to do after the season was over.

"So it kind of at least put me on a path to go somewhere."

With the Mariners, Rice started at single-A Wausau, going 12-11, with a 3.84 ERA. The next year, he moved to single-A San Bernardino.

At 23 and 24 years old those first two years with the Mariners, Rice recalled always seeming like the oldest guy on the team.

He also recalled knowing his status as an undrafted player, and working to change that.

"I knew that there was a pecking order and I somehow or another had to show that I wasn't at the bottom of that pecking order," Rice recalled.

But, as far as trying to do that, Rice recalled he just tried to go out and play.

"There was never a chip on my shoulder, that I didn't get drafted, but it was a motivational tool for me, kind of a prove-them-wrong kind of thing," Rice said.

"For me," Rice added a short time later, "it was just the fact that I loved playing. It didn't matter what I was doing. As long as I was getting to play, I was happy."

Within a few years, the pitcher signed as an undrafted free agent, was playing in the big leagues.

Go to Part 2, Pat Rice, Successfully Reinvented

Part 1: Original Path | Part 2: Successfully Reinvented

Note: This is the fifth of 10 interviews picked up on The Greatest 21 Days' late July trip to central and southern California. Links to other interviews are on the righthand column.

Charles Hillemann, Went Home - 521

Charlie Hillemann's son Dalton told his hometown newspaper in 2010, he was glad for a decision his father made nearly two decades earlier.

That decision was to quit baseball and come home and be a dad.

"Me being born was one of the deciding factors to put down his baseball career," Daulton Hillemann told The St. Louis Suburban Journals. "He focused on being a father, a husband and starting a family. And I can't thank him enough."

The father's career began in 1987, taken by the Padres in the fifth round of the draft out of Southern Illinois University.

Hillemann started at short-season Spokane, hitting .285 in 65 games. In July, he touched off a game-winning rally with a single. In an August game, it was Hillemann driving in the winning run, according to The Spokane Spokesman-Review.

For 1988, Hillemann moved to single-A Charleston, hitting .250 over 118 games. He also stole 28 bases.

Then, in 1989, Hillemann first made AA, at Wichita. There, he hit .247, stealing 27.

He first made AAA in 1990, with 91 games at Las Vegas. Hillemann, though, never got his call to San Diego.

His final year in the Padres system came in 1991, with more time spent at AA Wichita than AAA Las Vegas.

After a trade to the Brewers, Hillemann played just one more season. He played 44 games at AA El Paso and 15 at AAA Denver. He then went home to his family.

• St. Louis Suburban Journals, July 14, 2010: Hillemanns bound by baseball

1990 CMC Tally
Cards Featured: 842/880 - 95.7%
Players/Coaches Featured: 853
Made the Majors: 582 - 68%
Never Made the Majors:271-32%-X
5+ Seasons in the Majors: 261
10+ Seasons in the Minors: 160

Interview: Russ Morman tried to fill bigs role, be that guy

Fresno hitting coach Russ Morman at Chukchansi Park. (G21D Photo)

Teams start the year with only 25 guys on a team.

Russ Morman knew that, through injury or performance, those 25 guys wouldn't stay the same through the year.

"Really, that was always the thing," Morman told The Greatest 21 Days. "You know that they can't play with 25 guys through a year. It just doesn't happen. So, if you're not one of those original 25 guys, you want to be the guy that, when they have to make a roster change, that you can possibly fill that bill or that role."

"It's pretty cut and dry in terms of, OK, if I want to be that guy," Morman added a short time later, "I have to perform at a particular level, because if I'm not, I get brushed over, I get looked over."

For Morman, he worked to perform at that level for the better part of 17 seasons. And, in nine of those, when the big club made a roster change, Morman got the call.

Those calls never saw Morman get in more than 49 major league games in any one season - in his last he got in just four.

Fresno's Ryan Lollis comes around to score July 27, 2012, at Chukchansi Park. Lollis' hitting coach at AAA Fresno is Russ Morman (G21D Photo)

Still, though, he kept getting called back.

Morman spoke with The Greatest 21 Days in late July at Fresno, Ca.'s Chukchansi Park, where Morman serves for 2012 as the AAA Fresno Grizzlies' hitting coach.

Part 1: Playing A Game | Part 2: That Guy

With Fresno, Morman works with players, ensuring they're performing at the level that will get them their call up to the bigs in San Francisco. Morman is also coaching at the same level that he played at in 15 different seasons.

Morman's first year at AAA came in 1985, with 21 games played at Buffalo in the White Sox organization. He returned there to start 1986.

By early August, Morman got his first call to the majors and it came in the middle of a slump.

Playing outfield one night as the slump continued, Morman recalled walking back in to the dugout and getting a message from his manager: He was headed to Chicago.

"I was shocked, I really was," Morman said. "Because, if you were going off of what I had done the previous week, you'd think there's no way he's going."

But the body of work was there. And, three years after being taken by the White Sox in the first round of the draft, Morman was in the majors.

Morman then went and broke out of that slump, picking up three hits in his debut, two of them in the same inning. He was the second player to do that in his debut. Morman was surrounded by reporters afterward for his accomplishment.

Fresno Grizzlies congratulate each other during an inning July 27 where they scored four runs. Fresno's hitting coach is Russ Morman. (G21D Photo)

He even soon found himself in front of Al Michaels - the same guy who, six years earlier, Morman and millions of others watched make the famous Miracle on Ice call in the 1980 Lake Placid games.

Morman remembers seeing the message light on his hotel phone. Michaels wanted to interview Morman on Monday Night Baseball. "For me to get the opportunity to sit and chat with him was out of this world," Morman recalled.

Morman ended up staying with the White Sox for the rest of the season, getting into 49 games in all. He hit .252, with a total of four home runs.

Then, for 1987, it was back to AAA. Morman didn't get back to the majors at all that year. Morman just continued working to get back.

"You get there, you get a little taste of it, and it gets taken away," Morman said. "You want that chance to go back and perform at that level. Of course, it's not given to you, you have to earn that right as a player to even be thought of that way."

It was that carrot Morman kept chasing.

As the years went by, Morman continued doing that. And he kept earning the right to be thought of like that.

He returned to the White Sox for 1988, getting into 40 games. He then got 37 games in 1989. He moved to his hometown Royals for 1990, getting into 12 games that year and 12 more the next.

Chukchansi Park, home of the AAA Fresno Grizzlies. Russ Morman, who played at AAA for parts of 15 seasons, serves as Fresno's hitting coach for 2012. (G21D Photo)

After two more seasons spent all in the minors, Morman returned to the bigs for each of the next four seasons, with the Marlins. In those four seasons, though, Morman never got into more than 34 games.

His last big league time came in 1997, the year the Marlins won the wild card, and the World Series. With the team in contention late, there was little room, or need, for Morman. And he'd had a good year at AAA, too. He hit .319.

He finally got his call in September, getting into four games. About being a part of the stretch run, Morman said, "that was so cool."

In what turned out to be his last major league start, the day after the Marlins clinched, Morman hit his final major league home run.

Morman played two more seasons in the minors before thumb and shoulder injuries finally forced him to end his playing career. Before an MRI shut him down for good and sent him off to surgery, though, Morman made one last pinch hit appearance for AAA Calgary, and, Morman recalled, hit a home run.

His playing career over, Morman has now gone on to his new one as a coach. He's been with the Giants since 2010, serving as hitting coach his first year in the organization at AA Richmond. For 2011 and 2012, he's been back at AAA, at Fresno.

Morman ended his playing career with a total of 207 games played in the majors over nine seasons. Helping him get there for those 207 games was his time spent back in the minors, at AAA. There, Morman played in a total of 1,249 games over 15 seasons.

Regarding his philosophy of making sure he was ready in those AAA games, Morman didn't want to miss that next chance.

"When you think of it that way, yeah, it's disappointing not being on the 25-man roster," Morman said. "But, also knowing that there's not 25 guys that play the whole year and injuries do occur in this sport, things happen and hopefully you're the guy who gets the next chance to help a team win."

Part 1: Playing A Game | Part 2: That Guy